Serve Placement | Table Tennis | PingSkills


Very early on in your serving development it’s important to start to focus on where your serve is going on the table It’s important that you start to understand where the danger zone is for your serve This area here in-between our two ropes is what I call the danger zone Why is this the danger zone? Because if you get the ball to land here, the next bounce is going to be out here and it’s going to be in the hitting zone of your opponent That is why you’d want to avoid this area here You’ve seen what can happen when I serve into the danger zone, so I need to start to think about the good zones So why is this a good zone? Because when the ball bounces for the first time here the second bounce is still going to be over the table That makes it a little bit more difficult for my opponent to make an attacking shot Why is this a good zone deep on the table? Because there I can get that ball travelling really fast and deep and if they’re in their ready position then they’re going to be forced backwards to make an effective attacking stroke So good because it gets a short serve, and good because you can get a really nice fast and long serve By serving that ball short it stopped Jeff from making a strong shot and it gave me the opportunity to make the first attacking shot in the rally The fast serve can also be effective as long as you’re getting it nice and long and deep and forcing your opponent away from the table Also you need to consider your opponent and their weaker and stronger sides. For example, if your opponent has a strong forehand you don’t want to serve the ball into their forehand area even if it’s going to be long and fast, and you can serve deep into the backhand side and vice versa If they’re strong on the backhand side avoid that area and play more serves into their forehand I wanted to examine the difference between a club level player and the best players in the world as to where they were serving So I took two games from a club level player and two games from the final of the men’s world singles championships between Ma Long and Fang Bo The results were really interesting. Lets first examine this short and long serving The club level player served 50% short and 50% long. And here’s the difference Ma Long and Fang Bo served 80% short and just 20% long Lets now look at the danger zone. So the danger zone as we saw is between about there and there Why is that the danger zone? Because if you land the ball there it’s going to be right in their hitting zone It’s going to be easy for them to attack, this happens sometimes when you’re trying to serve short and the ball strays a bit long. Or if you’re trying to serve that long fast one but the ball drops shorter giving them more time to be able to attack your shot So with the club level player 5 serves ended up in the danger zone, for Ma Long and Fang Bo, the number was 0 This a real difference between a club level player and the high level player This area here is a good area to play to, but sometimes we talked about Fang Bo and Ma Long serving there 20% So, really it’s not even in this area that we’re talking about 20%, we’re talking about this area here being 20% So 20% of serves into the green deep area but even for Fang Bo and Ma Long when they serve there, their success rate was still quite low It was less than 50% but it’s just used as a surprise tactic to keep the receiver honest to make sure they’re not coming in and standing all the way over the table The club level players we see do serve a lot of serves long and sometimes they get away with it because at the club level or at the lower level your opponent might not have a strong attack, but as you start increase the levels as soon as you stray long then the opponent is going to be able to hit the ball strong and hit a winner Initially what I’d like you to do even at the club level or lower level player, I want you to focus on trying to serve a few more balls short 70% is good, as you increase the levels and if you’re already a club level player or higher then you need to start to think about the Fang Bo and Ma Long statistics of 80% serves short and 20% serves long and that is only just as a surprise

100 comments

  1. I have had a burning question in my mind. If I was to hit the ball, and it was to bounce on the other players court twice what happens? Am I penalised or what? Please answer this.

  2. It's a very helpful video, thank you pingskills, for helping me improve my playing style,.. I applied these techniques and i found it really very helpful

  3. I sometimes see you serve to the same side of the table when you serve, I always play you have to make it the the opposite side?

  4. Good video, but may I suggest its easy to get hung up on the stats. Using the long fast serve as an occasional or against players who can't deal with it is probably what you should be doing rather than thinking about 70 and 80 percents. I'm talking about mentalitiy being mainly a self-taught sportsman its easy to get hung up on getting things exactly as described by internet sources and that can take the fluidity from the learning.
    Maybe something worth being aware of when making videos in the future.

  5. Awesome video as always, coaches. Thx.
    Coach Alois, could you make a video explaining your long topspin serve and your backspin serves, and how you hide them?
    Regards!

  6. Thank you very much for the video because I have one friend and he always strikes a topspin when I serve and these days I get the chances to do topspin over him

  7. Very helpful. What about strategies involving which side of the table to hit from and to? A short bounce that goes off the side gives an opportunity like a long ball. Also, the choice of side affects which side they return it to. I'd love to know more about how to use the whole table when serving.

  8. some people play the backhand flick shot even when we serve in the good zone…please tell me how can we stop the opponent from doing this..

  9. do you have tips on what spin of serve to use to set up a good third/fourth ball attack?
    What is a good game plan for a double wing looper , chinese penhold player..?
    When starting in this sport .. I thought that a good serve are those makes my opponent fail to return it… so when my opponent were good at reading spin then I have no game plan and most of the time fail..

  10. Much appreciated explanation.. not many would tell this fact, although, experience is enough for this serve placement tactic.. Guys if you watch this video plz give it a big thums up . the guy deserves many more …

  11. Pingskills is our favorite! Me, my kids and my husband greet each other sometimes "hi" (using your accent). That's a sign that we're in a good mood ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜‚

  12. This is really useful advice; as an attacking chopper, I can do a short, back-sidespin backhand serve to my opponents' right side and do a 3rd ball attack. I can also do the same serve fast and long to my opponents' left side and force my opponent to either loop so I can chop, or just do it for a safe rally when I feel pressured. Great video, thanks for the advice!

  13. I am able to do a short double bounce pendulum serve, but i still get too much curve in the ball flight after the first bounce on the other side. To me, that seems to give the other player a lot of time to track the ball : eg. if I serve short to the middle of the other side, the ball will curve and double bounce to a right-hand player's backhand corner angle.I want backspin but also some sidespin to make it a more difficult serve to receive but I can't seem to control the mix of backspin and side spin.

  14. You forgot to mention modern half long serving. It's a serve that has it's second bounce extremely close to the edge of the table. Your opponent is first going to assume that it's short and moves forward for a short push. When they realize that the ball might actually not hit the table for a second bounce they move back again and try to attack. This attack will be very weak as they couldn't fully prepare for the shot and you will most likely be able to land an attacking shot yourself

  15. Wow greatly explained ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

  16. Why is it when serving a normal side forehand sidepin serve most players lock their upper arm so it in the same angle as the floor insted on letting the arm move through when you hit the ball like forming a reverse L with the upper and lower arm. There must be an advantage doing this

  17. Would be great to hear the results on a larger sample size. 100 games from the top 10 players in the world for example. If these stats even exist.

  18. Oh man, it's been so long since watching Ping skills. But I have a tournament in a few days and getting some good tips is nice. Thanks Ping Skills!

  19. in doubles table tennis when I serve from the right table first fell
    on the left side of the table and then bounced off the right side
    of the opponent's in brief pendulum serv approximately valid or
    invalid services that I do thank's

  20. Im a table tennis coach too, and i have actually used some of ur ideas into my coaching, since alot of my students are between the age of 7-15 yrs, and they are new to the sport..

  21. Hey coach….recently I played a match with a person who is very much talented in countering the balls….even a slight high chop gets him into attacking…….I could block at least 2 times as he starts hitting but…he goes on hitting and he took the game….can you help me to win against him

  22. Alex has a highly illegal service throw. He throws the ball backwards and towards him which contravenes the vertical throw rule.

  23. Never thought of that. Brilliant statistic about 80% of the top players serving short. A real eye-opener

  24. Jeff reminds me of the 'As seen on TV' commercials, with the hilarious 'accidents', when he intentionally misses the third shots… Still an amazing video.

  25. after seeing this lesson a few months ago, I began working on it, and it's made a huge difference when playing the really skillful attackers, I can't win from the serve but keeping it short keeps me in the point

  26. Isn't the server in the examples tossing the ball backwards too much? In your serving rules video, Jeff explains that the toss is required to be mostly vertical. Thoughts?

  27. Some very good tips, but why when he demonstrates serve does the ball go in a loop backwards, not straight up?

  28. What an observation !! thanks for sharing !!! Neva thought that ma long servers max short serves… thanks for the great explanation

  29. When Iโ€™m servicing, does the ball have to land inside the opponents box. Or can I serve and it can go to the side and not straight to them? Not sure if Iโ€™m making sense

  30. thanks a lot! one question, at 1:56 you throw the ball to back, this is legal? because in another video says that the ball have to bee vertical

  31. I served a lot more short serves against the best player in my school (I'm the second best) but when I serve long and fast as a surprise,I get a very fast receive and I didn't have time to attack…

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